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Old Jun 27, 2014, 11:41 PM // 23:41   #1
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Unhappy In-game shop change

Update - Thursday, June 26, 2014

Fixed the timing of the Halloween and Anniversary Festivals.
The In-Game Store has been removed from the game and replaced with a link to the new Web Store, which will be available soon. In-game links to the In-Game Store have been replaced with links to the Web Store.
Replaced empty error screens in account management with links to the Support website.




So, basically Arenanet is changing the location of the shop. Instead of accessing the shop in-game (and via the NCSoft site) you can now access the store via store.guildwars.com;

I don't know why they did this, but it was probably done to prevent confusion of players wether they had to go to the ingame store or log in to their ncsoft accounts and purchase stuff there. Since players already had to login to NCSoft to change their passwords it was easier to link to one location anyway.

Good stuff:
*Paying with PayPal is still possible.
*You can actually see the access keys of the accounts you buy now (thus being able to 'gift'), instead of only being able to use them for accounts linked to your Ncsoft-account.

But now, I don't understand the following things:
*Why is there always only ONE featured product, the Guild Wars: Platinum Edition? Wouldn't it be much better to make some kind of automated system that changes the featured products from time to time, so it actually MAKES SENSE?
*Why is Factions suddenly 5 euros more expensive than it used to be (20 euros instead of 15)
*Why is Factions suddenly more expensive than Nightfall? (A.k.a. what makes Nightfall worth less?)
*Why are prices raised anyway? At this state of the game it is VERY weird to raise prices, I didn't expect that to happen. I totally laughed my ass off when I noticed Eye of the North is suddenly 2 euros MORE expensive than platinum edition, which is essentially eotn+prophecies.
*Why do I get sent back to the Guild Wars main site after completing a purchase and pressing the "back to store" button? The main site also doesn't have ANY button to redirect you, and I don't expect that to be added soon, so don't be suprised.

No, I am not positive about this change, and suspect it all to be part of Arenanet's current "We don't give a shit about this dying game"-policy.
Especially not about the less than subtle attempt to raise prices in a completely random manner.

~Leot
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 03:01 AM // 03:01   #2
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Update - Thursday, June 26, 2014

Fixed the timing of the Halloween and Anniversary Festivals.
The In-Game Store has been removed from the game and replaced with a link to the new Web Store, which will be available soon. In-game links to the In-Game Store have been replaced with links to the Web Store.
Replaced empty error screens in account management with links to the Support website.




So, basically Arenanet is changing the location of the shop. Instead of accessing the shop in-game (and via the NCSoft site) you can now access the store via store.guildwars.com;

I don't know why they did this, but it was probably done to prevent confusion of players wether they had to go to the ingame store or log in to their ncsoft accounts and purchase stuff there. Since players already had to login to NCSoft to change their passwords it was easier to link to one location anyway.

Good stuff:
*Paying with PayPal is still possible.
*You can actually see the access keys of the accounts you buy now (thus being able to 'gift'), instead of only being able to use them for accounts linked to your Ncsoft-account.

But now, I don't understand the following things:
*Why is there always only ONE featured product, the Guild Wars: Platinum Edition? Wouldn't it be much better to make some kind of automated system that changes the featured products from time to time, so it actually MAKES SENSE?
*Why is Factions suddenly 5 euros more expensive than it used to be (20 euros instead of 15)
*Why is Factions suddenly more expensive than Nightfall? (A.k.a. what makes Nightfall worth less?)
*Why are prices raised anyway? At this state of the game it is VERY weird to raise prices, I didn't expect that to happen. I totally laughed my ass off when I noticed Eye of the North is suddenly 2 euros MORE expensive than platinum edition, which is essentially eotn+prophecies.
*Why do I get sent back to the Guild Wars main site after completing a purchase and pressing the "back to store" button? The main site also doesn't have ANY button to redirect you, and I don't expect that to be added soon, so don't be suprised.

No, I am not positive about this change, and suspect it all to be part of Arenanet's current "We don't give a shit about this dying game"-policy.
Especially not about the less than subtle attempt to raise prices in a completely random manner.

~Leot
There are situations where if someone is using a credit/debit card on multiple accounts - The in-game store actually limits you on how many accounts that card can be associated with. I believe this method providing the buyer with an in-game code changes that so you can use the same card for any account.

Factions is always worth more than Nightfall because Nightfall sucked ^_^.

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Old Jun 28, 2014, 08:49 AM // 08:49   #3
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They've screwed over us Brits with this. We don't use Euros in the UK, and yet all the prices on the site are in Euros. I did a bit of maths and us Brits will be paying more for everything now the prices are in Euros which, to be blunt, is a pisstake when the game's this old. A £6.99 item has now turned into £7.20, a £9.99 item has turned into £10.41... Small amounts I know, but it adds up and it's the principle of the whole thing as well. I was planning on buying some Mercenary Heroes, a couple more character slots and 4 storage panels for my alt account. Unless Anet change this, they can go fornicate with themselves vigorously with a barbed wire wrapped pinecone. I've always praised Anet for being a decent company but this really cops the piss.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:18 AM // 11:18   #4
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Bah, it's only a change to make more profit out of the game. Disappointed.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 08:28 PM // 20:28   #5
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Extracted prices and calculated the price difference in a spreadsheet.
BOLD column shows the lowest price, based on currency conversion on xe.com

Nightfall is quite interesting, it's +47% more expensive in USD than in EUR.
My guess is they forgot to add a discounted value on the US price list.

ItemUSDEURxe.com USD to EUR% Difference
Guild Wars® 2008 Upgrade$4.99€4.99€3.6673%
Guild Wars® Bonus Mission Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Guild Wars® Game of the Year Upgrade$4.99€4.99€3.6673%
Guild Wars® PvP Access Kit$19.99€17.99€14.6581%
Guild Wars: Eye of the North®$19.99€17.99€14.6581%
Guild Wars®: Game of the Year Edition$19.99€14.99€14.6598%
Guild Wars® Platinum Edition$19.99€14.99€14.6598%
Guild Wars® Trilogy$29.99€24.99€21.9788%
Guild Wars Factions®$29.99€19.99€21.97110%
Guild Wars Nightfall®$29.99€14.99€21.97147%
Aegis of Unity Costume$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Agent of Balthazar$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Augur of Kormir Costume$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Dapper Tuxedo$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Disciple of Melandru$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Dragonguard Costume$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Dwayna Costume$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Formal Attire$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Grenth Costume$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Lunatic Court Finery Costume$6.99€5.99€5.1285%
Character Name Change$14.99€12.99€10.9885%
Extra Character Slot$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Extreme Makeover$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Makeover Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Mercenary Hero Complete Pack$44.99€34.99€32.9694%
Mercenary Hero Slot$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Mercenary Hero Three Pack$19.99€14.99€14.6598%
Xunlai Storage Pane$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Core Skill Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Guild Wars® Eye of the North Skill Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Guild Wars® Factions Skill Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Guild Wars® Nightfall Skill Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Guild Wars® Prophecies Skill Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Pet Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
PvP Item Unlock Pack$9.99€8.99€7.3281%
Guild Wars® Platinum Edition$19.99€14.99€14.6598%

IT IS possible to use an online proxy to get the best price, but just make sure a proxy can come with risks. In any case, make sure any credit cards details are transferred over https. But that's common sense, right? Right.

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EDIT: Looked at the old prices listed on wiki (which most likely will change soon.)
ASSUMING the listed prices on wiki were correct, here's some interesting differences.
  • Most obvious is of course there's no longer any £-prices.
  • Eye of the North is now €3 cheaper, no change in $.
  • Game of the Year edition is €11 cheaper, no change in $.
  • Guild Wars Platinum wasn't available in the old ingame store.
  • Trilogy is now $10 cheaper, €-price unknown.
  • Rainment of the Lich Costume is no longer available.
  • PvP Access Kit is now $0.05 cheaper (YAY!), no change in €.

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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:10 PM // 23:10   #6
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I think the wiki has very old prices, actually some euro prices have increased after the shop change. I clearly remember when I bought the game, GW:EN was 14.99€, now it's 17.99€. Factions and Nightfall were 14.99€ each, now Factions is 19.99€. Not so much more expensive, but still an annoying increase in my opinion.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #7
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I wouldn't buy a campaign/expansion from there anyway. Was about to get Nightfall for my 6th account, it costs €8.60 in my local game shop compared to €14.99 in gw store.
Only reason for now to buy from gw store would be if I met a hot chick in GW and wanted to gift her some costumes and a dozen of character slots and xunlai panes.
(Yes, it was a joke lol)
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 07:30 AM // 07:30   #8
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Only reason for now to buy from gw store would be if I met a hot chick in GW and wanted to gift her some costumes and a dozen of character slots and xunlai panes.
That's a shame. I'm a hot chick, and I was considering tapping you for some costumes and a dozen character slots

Ok, I'm not a hot chick.

On topic though....

Did you hear the joke about the software company who wanted to kill off a no-longer supported game's playerbase while discouraging others from buying it too?
They raised the prices for no apparent reason without maintaining or adding any customer support or new content.

*aplause*

It's such a shame to read this, because I fell in love with this game 8 years ago, and I still love it. My guild is on a mission to locate and preserve the finest items known to exist because we all fell in love with it.

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Old Jun 29, 2014, 10:51 AM // 10:51   #9
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Did you hear the joke about the software company who...
Oh I know this one! Oh.. wait, it's my favorite game, we're screwed!

Then again no other game has ever given me more entertainment when it comes to money I invested in it. If they raised money to discourage players to buy it, it's a very weak effort because this game is still great!

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Old Jun 29, 2014, 12:00 PM // 12:00   #10
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I wouldnt buy from the ingame store either---now I have added reasons not to (the game always costs less anyplace else---got my copies either locally for about $15 for the whole set--minus eye, which is why I have some without eye, too blinken expensive for very little return). Had not planned on getting the 'extras' anymore either--have one account with all the bells and whistles is plenty for me, now I am 10000% positive I wont buy anything else.


edit: the lich costume no longer being available is probably an error on their end...the janitor probably forgot to include it.
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 12:30 PM // 12:30   #11
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funny how trilogy and 1 campaign cost the same now
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edit: the lich costume no longer being available is probably an error on their end...the janitor probably forgot to include it.
Yes, I called him and he'll add it once he sorted the network cables.
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Old Jun 30, 2014, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #13
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I liked it as it was. I could log in to an account, go to the store, and see what I did not have. Now I have to be careful not to purchase something I already have on a certain account.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 02:37 PM // 14:37   #14
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Have some news from Guild Wars Wiki:

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We're working on fixing the price display issue. Also note that some items are not yet available (together with language versions of the Guild Wars Store) but will be put back on the store as soon as possible.
Hope this helps.
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A lot of the costumes are still missing from the new store, anyone know if they will ever return? I posted a reply to that message from Stephane above.
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Old Sep 21, 2014, 05:51 PM // 17:51   #16
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I doubt it, but it would have been nice
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Well what do you know. Even though I contacted support and they told me the costumes were discontinued I saw on /r/GuildWars today that the full compliment of costumes have appeared back on the store. Meant I could pick up the Shining Blade and White Mantle ones I was missing.
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 07:45 AM // 07:45   #18
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nice, i'm glad i already bought the shining blade one
maybe i'll get the white mantle one for fun (except i wont use the headpiece, like with most other costumes)

i might also buy a few others in time, as i dont have much money, so i gotta buy 1 per month if i want them

well, i'm glad i dont need to go out and buy a paysafecard like back then, as this store also accepts ideal (european safe way of paying online), which i can use at home (lazy)

by the way, why is that Wedding Couple Attire worth more than the rest? oh well, i got the better looking one(imo).... called Formal Attire

maybe i'll buy them all (i got several) one by one(except for dapper tuxedo), but first the last merc hero slot, hehe
just playing around with costumes and see what i like most for certain chars

the only thing thats not back, is the kormir one, hmm, lets hope they put it back

anyway, glad all (except kormir costume) of what i might buy, is back

for now, lets wait for the Augur of Kormir to return..... or at least hope it comes back

thanks for the update
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #19
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was talking to someone ingame and they said they couldnt buy more than one character slot or storage at a time. So I tried it myself and unless I am missing something I am not seeing that you can buy more than one per purchase. (player I was talking to said they had done so when it first changed but couldnt now). I did not complete the transaction so perhaps its someplace after you put in your payment method---
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